are vegetables good for you?

[punch]

I have seen stuff online saying like plants are pretty bad for you and vegetables in general. Is this true?

 

[alex]

first post G!

any antinutrient or high fiber foods are considered unoptimal, hence why vegetables get the bad rep. There are still some good vegetables like i would say bell peppers and cucumbers and carrots are on the better end of the spectrum. think about this, If something has no nutrients that you can’t get in animal foods, and it contains negative things such as oxalates, goitrogens, fiber, phytic acid etc. then why would you put it in your body vs a steak? from a simple logical standpoint, vegetables are missing 26 nutrients you either want or need, things you'll only find in meat.

 

[punch]

How is fiber bad, I never rlly understood that

 

[alex]

Fiber slows the absorption of nutrients and can cause increased constipation, bloating, gas, and abdominal pain. It’s also about what fiber comes with. low fiber fruits are good though, I personally just eat fruit for my fiber source like mangos, honeydoo, dragon fruit, pear, pineapple, watermelon, etc.

 

[punch]

Thanks bro

 

[webs]

first post G!

any antinutrient or high fiber foods are considered unoptimal, hence why vegetables get the bad rep. There are still some good vegetables like i would say bell peppers and cucumbers and carrots are on the better end of the spectrum. think about this, If something has no nutrients that you can’t get in animal foods, and it contains negative things such as oxalates, goitrogens, fiber, phytic acid etc. then why would you put it in your body vs a steak? from a simple logical standpoint, vegetables are missing 26 nutrients you either want or need, things you'll only find in meat.

beautiful explanation g

 

[jaz]

I have seen stuff online saying like plants are pretty bad for you and vegetables in general. Is this true?

Lol quiet buddy

 

[punch]

Lol quiet buddy

shut your mouth foidcel

its over for u

 

[jaz]

shut your mouth foidcel

its over for u

Quiet down poor

 

[punch]

Quiet down poor

@alex ban her

 

[jaz]

@alex ban her

Ok i want to apologize

 

[punch]

Ok i want to apologize

its ok

 

[webs]

Quiet down poor

son

 

[on5]

first post G!

any antinutrient or high fiber foods are considered unoptimal, hence why vegetables get the bad rep. There are still some good vegetables like i would say bell peppers and cucumbers and carrots are on the better end of the spectrum. think about this, If something has no nutrients that you can’t get in animal foods, and it contains negative things such as oxalates, goitrogens, fiber, phytic acid etc. then why would you put it in your body vs a steak? from a simple logical standpoint, vegetables are missing 26 nutrients you either want or need, things you'll only find in meat.

opened my eyes with this one

 

[Retamg]

Lol quiet buddy

He can ask questions buddy thats why its here

 

[Retamg]

first post G!

any antinutrient or high fiber foods are considered unoptimal, hence why vegetables get the bad rep. There are still some good vegetables like i would say bell peppers and cucumbers and carrots are on the better end of the spectrum. think about this, If something has no nutrients that you can’t get in animal foods, and it contains negative things such as oxalates, goitrogens, fiber, phytic acid etc. then why would you put it in your body vs a steak? from a simple logical standpoint, vegetables are missing 26 nutrients you either want or need, things you'll only find in meat.

Perfect

 

[Stef]

nope, 0 nutritional value and have anti nutrients and fiber

 

[khhv]

i usually get my carbs from potatoes and other veggies is it optimal

 

[alex]

i usually get my carbs from potatoes and other veggies is it optimal

potatoes and most vegetables aren't really "optimal" from a nutrition standpoint. (atleast in my view) Think about it this way, if a food contains things that actively work against youlike oxalates, phytic acid, goitrogens, lectins and everything nutritionally useful in it is already covered by animal foods, what's the actual argument for eating it?


Potatoes are mostly starch with a decent potassium hit, but you're getting potassium (and more) from meat. The fiber people talk up? Your gut doesn't need it the way we've been told that's increasingly being questioned.
(however potatoes are decent carb source)

not all vegetables are equal. Bell peppers, cucumbers, carrots are a lower antinutrient load, mostly water, less of the stuff that causes problems.

The 26 nutrients missing from plants but present in meat. retinol, heme iron, taurine, carnosine, creatine, B12, K2, complete amino acid profiles , those aren't minor gaps they are truly foundational.


Fruit is the go to carb source imo. Low antinutrient load, easy to digest, and it actually pairs well with how the body runs on an animal based diet. Ripe fruit ESPECIALLY mango, berries, melon, oranges. Honey works the same way.


White rice is a reasonable option if you need performance carbs around training it's essentially neutral, stripped of the bran and phytic acid, so it's not working against you.


Root vegetables like well cooked sweet potato or squash are on the acceptable end too just make sure cooking breaks down most of the antinutrients.


What doesn't fit the animal based framework well is whole grains, legumes, raw leafy greens in large amounts, anything high in oxalates or lectins. Not because carbs are bad, but because those specific sources bring baggage that your animal foods don't.


If your meat and organ intake is solid, you honestly don't need a ton of carbs. but when you want them, keep it clean and keep it lowinterference.

 

[volcell]

I have seen stuff online saying like plants are pretty bad for you and vegetables in general. Is this true?

no they have oxilates and give cancer and also lower test levels if you want to be a sub femcel then yes eat vegetables